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		<title>By: Andie Summerkiss</title>
		<link>http://therrysays.com/2008/08/its-an-indonesian-thing-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Andie Summerkiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indonesians think that it’s such a great achievement to “break” the law or common social rules. Such as queuing, trashing, and even bribing. They would gloat about it afterwards. 

Mr Idiot : “Hey, there was a long line at Carrefour today. I cut off the line and paid in less than 5 minutes. How cool was I?”

Friends of Mr Idiot : “Wowww!” 

The next day, everybody starts doing the same thing. At the end of the day, nobody queues. Since queuing is so boring, and it won’t “wow” anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indonesians think that it’s such a great achievement to “break” the law or common social rules. Such as queuing, trashing, and even bribing. They would gloat about it afterwards. </p>
<p>Mr Idiot : “Hey, there was a long line at Carrefour today. I cut off the line and paid in less than 5 minutes. How cool was I?”</p>
<p>Friends of Mr Idiot : “Wowww!” </p>
<p>The next day, everybody starts doing the same thing. At the end of the day, nobody queues. Since queuing is so boring, and it won’t “wow” anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
		<link>http://therrysays.com/2008/08/its-an-indonesian-thing-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1728</link>
		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so much stereotyping :)

Can I then say that it&#039;s also an Indonesian &#039;quality&#039;  of generalizing and to stereotype ?

Whoops... that means I just did !
- I&#039;m an Indonesian
- I just generalized that generalizing is so Indonenesian~ like: totally !

:D

&lt;blockquote&gt;Don&#039;t worry, I generalise ALL the time LOL. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so much stereotyping <img src='http://therrysays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Can I then say that it&#8217;s also an Indonesian &#8216;quality&#8217;  of generalizing and to stereotype ?</p>
<p>Whoops&#8230; that means I just did !<br />
- I&#8217;m an Indonesian<br />
- I just generalized that generalizing is so Indonenesian~ like: totally !</p>
<p> <img src='http://therrysays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Don&#8217;t worry, I generalise ALL the time LOL. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mach Jabber</title>
		<link>http://therrysays.com/2008/08/its-an-indonesian-thing-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>Mach Jabber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really notice all the above, save the queue bit. Indonesians cannot do queue. I don&#039;t really understand why.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Many Indonesians would put “tolerance” at the top of their lists of “national” characteristics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed it&#039;s the most bizarre portion of our vanity parade. This &quot;characteristic&quot; is pretty much taken for granted.

Indonesians, tolerant? What&#039;s next, North Koreans are democratic? Americans are on a healthy diet? Saudi Arabians are matriarchal? Does it get any more surreal?

&lt;blockquote&gt;As the author has explained above, Indonesians are tolerant when it comes to hardship, harsh weather condition, poverty and government fuckwittage. They&#039;re also pretty tolerant when there are government officials and corrupt politicians visiting them, and even that hopeless president Bimbang Susilo YouDon&#039;t Know, even though it&#039;s clear this country has become ten times worse ever since Indonesia fell under his reign.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really notice all the above, save the queue bit. Indonesians cannot do queue. I don&#8217;t really understand why.</p>
<blockquote><p>Many Indonesians would put “tolerance” at the top of their lists of “national” characteristics.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed it&#8217;s the most bizarre portion of our vanity parade. This &#8220;characteristic&#8221; is pretty much taken for granted.</p>
<p>Indonesians, tolerant? What&#8217;s next, North Koreans are democratic? Americans are on a healthy diet? Saudi Arabians are matriarchal? Does it get any more surreal?</p>
<blockquote><p>As the author has explained above, Indonesians are tolerant when it comes to hardship, harsh weather condition, poverty and government fuckwittage. They&#8217;re also pretty tolerant when there are government officials and corrupt politicians visiting them, and even that hopeless president Bimbang Susilo YouDon&#8217;t Know, even though it&#8217;s clear this country has become ten times worse ever since Indonesia fell under his reign.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
		<link>http://therrysays.com/2008/08/its-an-indonesian-thing-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people mistakenly label Indonesians as tolerant, when actually what they see is people being intolerant with each other. So the culture is one in which people impose on each other--one does what one likes regardless of how others feel about it, because one knows that one will be subjected to the actions of others intolerant about one&#039;s feelings.

It is reciprocal intolerance, and has nothing to do with being rude or nice.

One may  mistakenly identify an act as being rude simply because the act is unfamiliar, and therefore one does (did) not have the opportunity to impose such act on others--alas, short end of the stick. Understandably, foreigners feel they are often at the receiving end of rudeness.

It is all very rational.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Lena, thanks for visiting my blog :)

A few months after I came back from my studies overseas, I was being polite to everyone. Until I learnt that people were STILL rude and because I was being nice, people stepped all over me. That was how I learnt to be rude back. I didn&#039;t want to, but it was the only way for me to survive. I know it wasn&#039;t the right thing to do, but I was young then and naive also.

I&#039;d learnt my lessons clearly, and now instead of being rude I just be firm and loud. Like when I see people stopping in front of an escalator when it&#039;s clear there are others behind them who are trying to get on, I&#039;ll say stuff like, &quot;WELL, ARE YOU GOING TO GET ON IT OR WHAT?&quot;

And when I&#039;m in a bitchy mood (which is often) I&#039;ll just go, &quot;ARISAN KOK DIDEPAN ESKALATOR!&quot;

Ok, maybe I haven&#039;t changed at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people mistakenly label Indonesians as tolerant, when actually what they see is people being intolerant with each other. So the culture is one in which people impose on each other&#8211;one does what one likes regardless of how others feel about it, because one knows that one will be subjected to the actions of others intolerant about one&#8217;s feelings.</p>
<p>It is reciprocal intolerance, and has nothing to do with being rude or nice.</p>
<p>One may  mistakenly identify an act as being rude simply because the act is unfamiliar, and therefore one does (did) not have the opportunity to impose such act on others&#8211;alas, short end of the stick. Understandably, foreigners feel they are often at the receiving end of rudeness.</p>
<p>It is all very rational.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Lena, thanks for visiting my blog <img src='http://therrysays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A few months after I came back from my studies overseas, I was being polite to everyone. Until I learnt that people were STILL rude and because I was being nice, people stepped all over me. That was how I learnt to be rude back. I didn&#8217;t want to, but it was the only way for me to survive. I know it wasn&#8217;t the right thing to do, but I was young then and naive also.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d learnt my lessons clearly, and now instead of being rude I just be firm and loud. Like when I see people stopping in front of an escalator when it&#8217;s clear there are others behind them who are trying to get on, I&#8217;ll say stuff like, &#8220;WELL, ARE YOU GOING TO GET ON IT OR WHAT?&#8221;</p>
<p>And when I&#8217;m in a bitchy mood (which is often) I&#8217;ll just go, &#8220;ARISAN KOK DIDEPAN ESKALATOR!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, maybe I haven&#8217;t changed at all.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://therrysays.com/2008/08/its-an-indonesian-thing-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL at John Doe&#039;s last paragraph. 
The other day I stepped into a crowded train, and I was wearing a dress that made me look particularly fat in the belly. So I was standing there, chatting with my friend, when 5 seconds later I felt someone tapping my shoulder. I turned around and this lady gave up her seat for me!!! I promptly rejected her offer :D (my friends were ROTFL)

&lt;blockquote&gt;At least now you know what&#039;s not to buy the next time you&#039;re going clothes-shopping, right? :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at John Doe&#8217;s last paragraph.<br />
The other day I stepped into a crowded train, and I was wearing a dress that made me look particularly fat in the belly. So I was standing there, chatting with my friend, when 5 seconds later I felt someone tapping my shoulder. I turned around and this lady gave up her seat for me!!! I promptly rejected her offer <img src='http://therrysays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (my friends were ROTFL)</p>
<blockquote><p>At least now you know what&#8217;s not to buy the next time you&#8217;re going clothes-shopping, right? <img src='http://therrysays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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