Not Our War To Fight For

Thanks for this entry.

I cringed every time I see demonstrations on the street to boycott American products or some other random and foolish reactions over the war in Gaza.

What enrage me is how much people simplify and reduce down this complex situation to an accusation of genocide of Muslim community in Palestine by the Israelis.

It’s not that simple, and an attempt to understand the issue will involve an introduction of a long and ugly history of humankind.

Please see this link: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/israel_and_gaza.html

There’s one common thread here. Family and friends lost their love ones, regardless of their color and religions.

War is an insult against humanity. There is no easy way to end this war nor to ensure that it will not be repeated in the future.

One thing I know though, your stupid demonstrations and uninformed comments won’t help at all.

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Peyo, thank you for the link. I had a nice time browsing your blog also and you have quite tasteful photography skills to show!

I agree that before people start demonstrating and let their emotions get the better of them, they must know the real situation and history as well as the real cause of the war between Palestinians and Israelis. In the end, none of us are better, holier, or more righteous. Every country has its own ugly history and mistakes, and before we can overcome those, we must not meddle into other country’s business.

I mentioned the May 1998 tragedy (as one of the examples) because until this very second, no one is deemed responsible for it, and yet people are demonstrating and accusing Israelis as savages, when in 1998, Indonesians are really, no different than those they call savages themselves. Such irony.

Agree with you Therry, this is not our war to fight for. There are still lots of things to be prioritized e.g. flood disaster, job openings, poverty and so on.

@Finally Woken: wow, perhaps you want to give the lady a reply too. Microsoft and Apple are US products as well! She should try to leave those two away

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Unfortunately not many people who think that way in this country, I’m afraid.

LOL, Microsoft and Apple. Quite right, I think computers should be banned too as they are the products of Americans.

We should focus on the victims of lapindo, papua earthquake, tsunami etc instead of the palestinians.
We have our own problems that goes beyond solidarity in the name of religion. Whatever happened to solidarity of our nation?

Luthfi Assyaukanie and Ulil Abshar are the man. I love their way of thinking and if more and more people in Indonesia think like them, the country would no be in such deep shit. Unfortunately the majority of Indonesian Muslims think these two brilliant individuals are infidels who are zionist puppets or some other ridiculous shit.
Sad, innit?

I feel you, girl. I am also saddened by the overwhelming news. I know Israelis are really bastards for killing so many innocent civilians, but still, Indonesians are so gullible and so ignorant as to point the blame to a ‘certain’ group.

What about the killings in Darfur where both the victims and the murderers are Muslims?
[Silence]

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Indonesians have the knack to look at the speck of sawdust in other people’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in their own. What is even more stupider beyond all means is the fact that most of them think this is all about religion, and all the demos and protests and burning of flags and so on are because they feel the urgent need to defend their religion.

If Indonesia is really such a religious country, then how come so many people are dying slowly? How come the government don’t care? How come there is so much poverty? Where is the religion in that?

It’s crazy that smart people like Luthfi are being mocked, when in fact he is exactly what this country needs in order for it to get better, so we can, after all, help other nations, when help is needed!

from ur previous entry, good start for you! and you’re right, just have a little faith i was wondering, will u ever gonna write a book, fiction or non fiction one day.. haha.
Seriously, u should give it a try! its still under the creative department right

Chick lit fiction? Lemme think about that Thanks Wiwin!

I went to Baznas ceremony last Saturday where our President, SBY, gave his speech.

He didn’t mention about Jihad or send our people to fight, at all.
All he said that Palestinian people need food, medicine, not gun or bullet.

In Indonesian government view, it’s all about humanity not war against certain religion.

The caricature that you captured is totally right. I just finished read “Jerusalem, Kesucian, Konflik dan Pengadilan Akhir” by Trias Kuncahyono.

It’s a good book to understand the conflict in Jalur Gaza, and yes, even Trias said the same things, both party claimed the same land, where both of them came from the same roots.

Ironic, because Indonesian (both Moslem and Christian) view it as war over religion

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Perhaps SBY had a good intention, but it needed to be realised. Indonesian people in general needed to be educated as well, so that when it came to a war such as this, they didn’t turn a blind eye and let their emotions rule their actions.

Religions, religions… can’t tell how sick I am of hearing about it.

Good idea, let’s send Jerry Springer over there to talk some sense into them … or at least Maury Povich …!

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Bet Springer would love being in the middle of all that chaos, it’ll be as if he never left at all!

Charity begins at home.

What always amazes me is the level of cynicism that leaders here treat their followers. I suppose to the tried and true method method of hiding one’s own indiscretions by pointing out someone elses is still alive and well here.

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Yep. (some) Indonesians are the most judgmental people who are willing to defend their religion to the death, even if they put the future of the country at its cost!

rima and therry:
My opinion is that the principle of helping others even when we have our own problems is a selfless act. I do not know the motivations behind the protests against the war in Gaza, who is to know what each individual’s motivations are?
However, I disagree with the bloggers attitude, that since its not our problem, and we have many problems of our own, let them all go to hell. It’s every man/woman/child for him/her/themselves in this dog eat dog world.
I understand the frustrations you feel, that sometimes kindness is driven by a selfish motivation, that kindness is sometimes hypocritical, but lets face it, in this day and age, where kindness and compassion is such a scarce commodity, whose value is so high, and untouchable by any financial or other crises, we should take what we can get, give what we can give, and try to live in peace, not in pieces.

Mr./Ms. Invisible, peace will begin as soon as the people in this country stop throwing demonstrations at any chance they get, as well as stop spreading unnecessary hatreds (ie. throwing shoes at imaginary Obamas, burning flags and used tires, etc.), and start helping each other and rebuilding this country so that in the future we can actually give the help we can afford, without ignoring nor sacrificing other people who are actually in more urgent need.

There is nowhere in my post that states “let them (Palestinians? Israelis?) all go to hell”, you are exaggerating. My meaning is that Indonesia should not get their priorities mixed up. Don’t forget we still owe a massive debt to the US, on top of the problems this country must overcome.

As for kindness and compassion – really, have we actually seen the kind of treatment being given to our own people? Have we? There are hundreds, even thousands of people in Indonesia who are also dying slowly from poverty, lack of education, malnutrition and natural disasters, are they no different than those in Gaza? Do they not deserve our attention too?

Oh My God..how can you spend times watching them? especially because you think they are competing in giving the best bull shit..

i pitty the people in Gaza and pray for them. My fight is the fight for human right.

BTW, i wont be home on February 1st
Maybe mid of Feb i will. please send regards to the bloggers (the anti pesta blogger or what?? hehehe). i’d love to come although will be so nervous to meet you gals. Yet unfortunately i must stay in Sabang for my associate is pulang kampung till 2nd of Feb.

post the report yeeeee

Hi M! I know, I know, I shouldn’t have watched that show. But out of all the other programs being offered on the rest of the channels (which consist of sinetrons, mostly) I thought this one would be worth watching. I mean, it was Metro TV, but no, they disappointed me, yet again. So far none of those debate shows actually give any insights for the audience, or clues or even hopes for a smarter, more intelligent leaders for this country.

Too bad you can’t make it to the Feb 1st! Toni and Elyani actually went to Pesta Blogger but I missed the deadline to sign up and I wasn’t feeling like going anyway (seminars etc., I’m too much of a bum to sit through them).

Nervous? Come on, what is there to be nervous about? Devi Girsang said the same thing, it’s as if we’re going to ask you out on a date or something *wink2*

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